Members' Forum #26 - AIDS

Sources, Nov/Dec (3:6) 1991, pp. 11-17

QUESTION: "Given the worldwide AIDS epidemic, should scuba course curriculums continue to include the teaching of mouth to mouth resuscitation? Why/Why not?"

Compiled and edited by Jeffrey Bozanic, NAUI 5334L

Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome, or AIDS, is a topic which has permeated our media for many years now. Because of the severe consequences (eventual death), and the lack of effective treatment or vaccination procedures, concern about the transmission of the disease is high. It is obviously in the best interests of society in general, including the diving community, to limit the spread of AIDS.

The question of whether mouth to mouth resuscitation should be taught to openwater diving students was posed by Roy Damron, NAUI 207. In addition to this question, he voiced several corollary concerns: After completing a scuba course, should a student in the future contract the virus due to body liquid exchange while trying to revive a drowned victim, can the instructor who encouraged mouth to mouth be held liable? And would NAUI insurance protect that instructor? Would the same be true of a student who contracted AIDS controlling severe bleeding in a diving related accident, for example shark attack?

The overwhelming majority of the respondents emphatically stated that instruction in mouth to mouth resuscitation techniques should be continued. However, while compiling the responses, it was evident that the question of contracting AIDS as a result of scuba instruction could be differentiated into several parts: (1) During mouth to mouth training on land, (2) During rescue practice sessions in the water, and (3) During actual mouth to mouth resuscitation efforts on a real victim during an emergency situation. I would like to summarize and address these scenarios separately.

Instruction in mouth to mouth resuscitation on land is routinely conducted using mannequins ("Resusci-Annies") as a training aid. While the AIDS virus has been found in saliva, the transmission of AIDS by saliva has not been demonstrated. AIDS transmission has only been confirmed as a result of interchange of blood, semen, urine, or fecal material with an infected individual. The exchange of any of these materials is highly unlikely as a result of using a mannequin. However, other viral infections can be transmitted as a result of improper mannequin use. Properly cleaning the mannequin is an essential part of preventing disease transmission, including possible AIDS transmission.

In-water rescue practice sessions entail the simulated rescue of an unconscious diver. In the past, some instructors have had their students practice actual mouth to mouth contact. This practice is clearly non-hygienic, and should be discontinued. Other instructors utilize mouth to cheek breathing as a simulation of mouth to mouth. This prevents the exchange of saliva in the foregoing method, and usually has no possibility of disease transmission. However, I have seen instances where a large wave has jostled a pair of students while one was simulating mouth to mouth using this technique, resulting in both students experiencing minor bleeding from small cuts in their lips, This was caused by violent tooth contact as one student was leaning over the other preparing to contact the cheek. Obviously, this potential exchange of blood creates a possible vector for disease transmission.

In actual rescues, the exchange of body fluids other than saliva is a very real possibility during mouth to mouth resuscitation efforts. Vomitus is often present, as is blood from lung over-expansion injuries. Any small cut or sore on or in the rescuer's mouth would provide a transmission path for possible infection. So what options were raised to minimize these problems?

Many respondents recommended teaching the use of a pocket mask for resuscitation activities. They further went on to suggest that every diver carry a mask with them while diving, either in a BC pocket or other convenient location. Some members pointed out that the risk of contracting AIDS from another diver is very small, because the diving population is not one of the demographic groups which is at high risk, and the incidence level of AIDS infected people in the general populace is very low. This, however, is no guarantee that the person you might find yourself dealing with is a healthy individual. And it must be kept in mind that one of the basic precepts of rescue is that the rescuer not place him/herself at undue risk.

While responses covered the initial question of mouth to mouth resuscitation training, they left unanswered other questions of liability and risk in post-training scenarios. Damron raised some very real and significant questions, worthy of thought. In my mind, students must be informed of the risk of AIDS and other transmittable diseases concurrently with their rescue training. They, then, must determine what their personal response will be to an emergency situation.

Ultimately, rescue, rescue instruction, and AIDS becomes a moral question. It is relatively easy to provide safe training in mouth to mouth resuscitation. However, in the real world, faced with a life threatening situation, it will be the option of the person at hand to determine what is acceptable to them as to how to proceed given the resources at hand. And that may well include either performing mouth to mouth without a protective or isolating device, or standing by and watching someone die because such equipment is unavailable.

 


QUESTION: "GIVEN THE WORLDWIDE AIDS EPIDEMIC, SHOULD SCUBA COURSE CURRICULUMS CONTINUE TO INCLUDE THE TEACHING OF MOUTH TO MOUTH RESUSCITATION? WHY/WHY NOT?"

A. "Divers traditionally try to get as far away from civilization as possible to do their thing. They will carry heavy equipment for long distances and down steep trails that only brave mountain goats use to reach their favorite dive sites. Due to the isolation such areas offer better diving than well known, crowded dive sites. But there is a price to pay. There are no telephones. Time and distance to help is considerable. Therefore, every diver must have the ability to manage emergencies, such as massive bleeding and drowning, on their own for long periods of time until professional help arrives."
The foregoing is my "attention getter" for my first aid lecture. The visions of secret dive sites cause them to lean forward in anticipation. The challenge of attending to life taking injuries offers a "need to know." I have no problem stirring up my enthusiasm because the three times I have had to administer mouth to mouth I have been successful, as I have been giving temporary first aid for several cases of serious bleeding. To be honest with my students I point out that they can expect the presence of body fluids such as blood and stomach contents, but with adrenalin pumping we do not notice it at the moment.
Following the usual demonstrations I wrap it up by pointing out that all humans are responsible for one another. If we are ever in a situation where someone's life is at stake it is our duty to take charge and do whatever we can to save a life.
I always encourage my students to ask questions at any time, so it came as no surprise during a class last fall when someone raised their hand when I was discussing body fluids. The question was, "What if they have AIDS?" I have heard people say they felt like they were hit by a bucket of ice water. Now I know what they mean. Having spent many years in the dance business I have first hand knowledge of how devastating this epidemic has become. Yet, I never recognized that it could have a direct bearing on our wonderful world beneath the sea.
I thought about it for a few days, and then wrote to NAUI HQ with the following questions: Should we continue to encourage our students to engage in mouth to mouth and bleeding control? If a student of mine contracts AIDS and sues me will my NAUI insurance defend me? Should not our Board of Directors set a policy for us to follow? I am still waiting for an answer. In the meantime I have been honest with my students. Are we responsible to our fellow man to the point of risking our lives to save theirs? I can no longer tell them that it is their duty to do so, since I do not know how I will react if I ever again see a stranger lying on the beach turning purple due to lack of oxygen.
--Roy Damron, NAUI 207; Kona, Hawaii (Diving Instructor, current NAUI Board of Advisors member. Past NAUI Director, Chapter Leader, West Pacific Branch Manager, and ITC Director. Recipient of NAUI Outstanding Service Award.)

A. It seems the standard of practice in the emergency response world is the "mouth to mask" system, the use of "shields," and the use of "gloves." I vote to go with those in the know and follow established procedures.
--Peter Meyer, NAUI 4264; Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada (Insurance Broker handling diving instructional liability insurance. Member NAUI Canada Board of Directors. Has lectured extensively on risk management in scuba instruction.)

A. I feel that we must continue this very valuable and important skill. We must, however, take whatever precautions that are called for such as use of disinfectants and barriers on CPR mannequins. The American Red Cross and American Heart Association have not stopped teaching CPR but have upgraded their sanitary precautions. We should simply follow their lead in this matter.
--Keith J. Sliman, NAUI 3417L; Baton Rouge, LA (Director of Training for SEVEN SEAS, a NAUI Pro Facility and winner of 1987 Affiliate Award. Received the Outstanding Service Award and Continuing Service Award. Member of NAUI Dive Table Review Committee, reviewer of Advanced Diving Techniques, contributor to upcoming Leadership Manual and frequent contributor to Sources. Has taught all levels from entry level to ITC.)

A. Of course. It has never been substantiated that AIDS can be passed via saliva (although I realize that a victim may very well have blood and other fluids in their mouth at the time of need). There is generally more danger in contracting Herpes or a common cold than AIDS from an activity such as mouth to mouth resuscitation. The issue of health is a real one however, and students should be made aware of it. Every class should be introduced to the use of pocket masks for resuscitation, both in the water and on land. There are compact, effective, and inexpensive units available which could easily fit into a B.C. pocket or first aid kit. Those concerned about disease and germs can easily obtain one. Personally, I keep one on hand.
--Nicole Crane, NAUI 10435; Pacific Grave, CA (Diving Safety Officer for Stanford University. Has taught all levels of diving to Divemaster, including specialties such as Research Diving. Has Taught for the military at Fort Ord and at the Catalina Island Marine Institute.)

A. It is OK to continue teaching mouth to mouth resuscitation. There is no evidence or indications that mouth to mouth resuscitation is a vehicle for the transmission of AIDS.
--Ian Koblick, NAUI ????; Key Largo, FL (Director, Marine Resources Development Foundation. Has been heavily involved in underwater habitats and laboratories for almost thirty years.)

A. Yes. While this maybe another argument for teaching mouth-to-snorkel technique, there is no data to support the contention that the HIV virus can be transmitted even by kissing. It is blood to blood contact and sexual contact that are the major concerns.
--Phil Sharkey, NAUI 4505L; Narragansett, RI (Diving Officer for the University of Rhode Island Graduate School of Oceanography. Has taught all levels and served as an ITC Director. Recipient of the NAUI Outstanding Service Award.)

A. Upon reading this question, I realized that I did not know that much about AIDS. I then researched the subject and learned that the virus that causes AIDS is named Human Immunodeficiency Virus or HIV. HIV is difficult to transmit. The spread of HIV is limited to sexual contacts, sharing of hypodermic needles and receiving contaminated blood or blood products. The virus has been found in saliva and tears, but the transmission by these body fluids has never been demonstrated and is extremely unlikely. No family member of an HIV carrier has ever been infected by hugging, kissing, or sharing tableware or bathroom with the infected person. HIV cannot be spread in swimming pools or bodies of water because chlorine kills the virus, or the infectious secretions would be so diluted as to be harmless.
When using CPR mannequins the same precautions as those to prevent the spread of other infectious diseases is sufficient. Surfaces which come in contact with the mouth should be cleansed between students with a 1:10 solution of household bleach to water and wiped dry after 30 seconds.
In conclusion scuba course curriculums should continue to teach mouth to mouth resuscitation. For more information about AIDS the National AIDS Hotline is 1 (800) 342 AIDS.
--Jerry R. Nuss, Jr., NAUI 12585; Rossville, IL (Independent Instructor conducting courses primarily for law enforcement officers.)

A. Yes, absolutely, there should be no question about teaching mouth to mouth resuscitation. It would be up to the individual to choose to use this skill or not. Of course the individual should be able to make an INFORMED decision. A responsible scuba course curriculum, therefore, should include at least the minimal facts concerning AIDS epidemiology as related to scuba. First, the number of HIV positive people is a very small percentage of the population. Second, and most important, the virus is not easily transferred (if at all) by oral secretions unless visible blood is present. Current CDC guidelines does not include oral secretions (including saliva and vomitus) as requiring universal precautions unless visible blood is present.
There is always the choice of using a type of resuscitation mask, but realistically, these masks are not easy to use and seldom readily available in the "real world". In the final analysis, when faced with the choice of preforming mouth to mouth or watching a human being dying before your eyes, I prefer to believe in man's humanity.
--Jeff Lynam, NAUI 12195; Acworth, GA (Independent Instructor and Manufacturer's Representative. Has worked in resorts, attended I.T. Workshops, and staffed IQ '91.)

A. Given the hysteria surrounding AIDS, this is an unfair question. Furthermore, in all probability, at least 95% of us are not fully conversant in such areas as the epidemiology of AIDS, the fragility or other characteristics and virulence of HIV, its vectors, modes of transmittal, titers in saliva, probabilities of transmission, etc. Thus the answers could be predicated on feelings not data.
Still, evidence appears to indicate that the probability of transmittal of HIV through mouth to mouth contact is negligible, particularly in the absence of oral lesions. Thus neither NAUI or any other training organization should take it upon themselves to deprive the divers they train of the ability and training to execute any life saving maneuvers because an infinitesimal probability of infection lurks in the backs of our minds. How the trained diver, equipped with the proper tools, will use that training is between the diver and his/her conscience.
--E. Esat Atikkan, PhD, NAUI 6274; Rockville, MD

A. In teaching rescue skills to my students, they practice SIMULATED mouth to mouth resuscitation. Mouth to mouth is simulated by blowing on the cheeks of the victim rather than actual breaths in the mouth (couples are excepted). The simulation is practiced regardless of the AIDS epidemic for many obvious reasons.
--Burhaneddin Z. Muntasser, NAUI 9650; Peekskill, NY (Taught all levels, OW I through ITCs. Teaches primarily at colleges. Recipient of the NAUI Outstanding Service Award.)

A. I believe that scuba courses should still contain instruction on mouth to mouth resuscitation. It may save your own life one day. There are risks in everything we do but do not forget that AIDS is a minority disease per capita to the number of people diving. In fact, I would go so far as to say that divers, simply by the type of people that are attracted to the sport, at least in this part of the world, are least likely to be involved in activities that would contract the disease. I know, there are always exceptions like blood transfusions and one night stands but again these situations are a very small minority.
I always carry a Laerdal pocket mask with me in my wetsuit pocket so that if I ever need to I can support an accident victim using it and do not have to check their medical record first! The pocket mask is excellent in that it not only avoids direct contact but helps keep water from the victim's nose and mouth and enhances towing by allowing the rescuer to tow the victim from behind the head rather than using the 'do-si-do' which can be quite difficult if there is any material difference in size between the rescuer and victim.
--John Baird, NAUI 10149; Northcote, Auckland, New Zealand (Regional Manager, NAUI New Zealand, and Member of the NAUI Australia Board of Directors. Teaches entry level diving, and some specialties.)

A. As long as the major players in the Basic Life Support field (i.e. the American Red Cross and American Heart Association) continue to require mouth to mouth resuscitation be taught as a prerequisite skill for learning how to use a pocket mask or other "rescue" mask we have no choice. But the training should not stop there! CPR at the professional rescuer level should be taught to every SCUBA student. SCUBA classes cannot be everything for everybody; however, if the SCUBA instructor is not qualified to teach Basic Life Support (BLS) CPR then he should find someone who can, or insure that each student has received the training elsewhere prior to certification. Yes, only NAUI leaders are now required to have this level of training, but it should be required for all SCUBA divers. Once a student is out of the TLC of his initial instructor, we must assume that no additional training will ever be pursued.
Appropriate first response to a diving casualty in the field, before pre-hospital care arrives, can make a life or death difference to that victim. Recognition of the problem, appropriate positioning, good CPR, and effective administration of oxygen are a few things that any diver should be capable of doing should the unusual occur. Rapid evacuation to an appropriate treatment facility would be next on the list.
--Ronald J. Ryan, NAUI 7205L; Two Harbors, Catalina Island, CA (Supervisor, Catalina Hyperbaric Chamber. Past employee in the commercial diving industry, where his duties included mixing special gasses for diving.)

A. To date, according to the New York City Police and Fire Departments, if a mannequin is cleaned properly, no transferred contamination is possible, or at least none has been found in 10,000 uses. The biggest problem in teaching mouth to mouth to scuba students is the realistic format of what it is like to actually give mouth to-mouth to an individual in the water during transport.
The biggest problem in doing mouth to mouth with a mannequin is that the student did not allow the alcohol (cleaning fluids) time to dry, before performing mouth to mouth and making a pressure seal. Absorbing alcohol into the lips will create an effect that is similar to herpes sores around the mouth.
Should we be teaching mouth to mouth? Yes.
Should individuals be performing mouth to mouth on one another? No. More than the AIDS issue, simply creating a good seal and experiencing the correct back pressure in mouth to mouth is not a safe suggested teaching format.
Today, a multitude of companies offer mannequins that are capable of being used in the sand and water. Lifeguard Systems has been teaching mouth to mouth via the use of a water capable mannequin for the past seven years. These mannequins are not expensive. We have found that for $350 initial cost, and an additional $40 50 in repair, the units have survived in sun, sand and water a minimum of three to four years with hundreds of uses.
The new Lifeguard Systems mannequin (water active) actually has a removable face, and each student can be issued a personal mouth and nose for the program. The most positive benefit is the ability to have the student truly experience what it is like to fill a lung and transport a torso through the water, all at the same time. Nothing beats hands on realistic training remember Dynamic Learning Concepts.
If any reader knows of a documented incident where an individual has received AIDS or any other communicable disease from doing mouth to mouth on a mannequin, please copy me with same.
--Walt "Butch" Hendrick, NAUI ????; Hurley, NY (President of Lifeguard Systems, Inc. Actively teaches all levels of diving to ITCs. Past North Atlantic Branch Manager and Member of the NAUI Board of Directors. Recipient of the NAUI Outstanding Service Award and Leonard Greenstone Diving Safety Award.)

A. Good God, Yes! That might be me that needs mouth to mouth! Bear in mind that: (1) most rescue breathing is done for family members and friends, for whom there should be no question of AIDS (or hepatitis or other communicable disease); (2) there has never been a documented case of AIDS communicated through rescue breathing; (3) AIDS requires body fluid transfer--it is not communicated through the air--and there are effective barriers to fluid transfer that still permit good ventilation; and (4) no one is obliged to administer mouth to mouth, even if they know how. I recommend going beyond rescue breathing, and encouraging every SCUBA diver to take CPR training. The number of lives (not just divers') that could be saved every year if this training were more widespread is estimated in the hundreds of thousands, and more often than not the individual saved would be no stranger to the rescuer.
--Dr. Robert Clemons, NAUI 10551; Garland, TX (Teaches privately and at Divers World in Richardson, TX. In addition to open water instruction teaches Diving Rescue, Marine Geology, and Archeological Diving specialties and leadership courses. Instructor Trainer in Basic Cardiac Life Support for the American Heart Association. Also teaches First Aid, Field Neurological Assessment and Emergency Oxygen Administration.)

A. I do not believe we should base our decisions for such things on fear but on solid medical evidence. So far no medical evidence links mouth to mouth resuscitation to the transmission of aids. The value and in fact necessity of this procedure in an emergency is not debatable, therefore, we should maintain teaching this technique. If in the future evidence appears that mouth to mouth resuscitation does transmit the virus then we should switch to concentrating on mouth to snorkel etc. We still teach mouth to mouth resuscitation in CPR courses where, the American Heart Association and Red Cross have gone to great pains to show that no evidence shows a link between mouth to mouth resuscitation and the transmission of aids. Why should NAUI contradict these organizations who base their policies on current medical evidence?
--Frank J. Toal Jr., NAUI 10185; St. Georges, Bermuda (Diving Safety Officer for the Bermuda Biological Station for Research, Inc. Certified DMT and EMT. Teaches all levels of diving to Divemaster and scientific diving techniques.)

A. As a Red Cross Instructor of CPR, I find it somewhat surprising that it should even be considered that rescue breathing techniques not be taught in scuba course curriculums. When we teach Red Cross CPR courses we do not ignore the very real concerns over the AIDS issue, but rather teach our course safely. We do not practice on our students nor allow them to do so on each other. That is what Annie is for. Naturally, we disinfect with a bleach based solution between students.
This should be even less of a concern for scuba instructors. Unless qualified, their course curricula should not be intended as anything other than a study in specialized application of a skill already taught through a proper certifying agency. This skill may be learned without any possible exchange of saliva. I think that a scuba instructor would be more concerned about sharing a regulator with a student than teaching in-water rescue breathing.
--Lawrence Coyne, NAUI 11185; Fort Lauderdale, FL (Teaches Openwater I thru Divemaster courses with the Florida Ocean Science Institute. Has also taught in the resort environment. CPR and First Aid Instructor.)

A. The alarming rate at which the AIDS virus has propagated throughout the international general population has caused such a drastic transformation of worldwide attitudes in so many areas of daily life, that the very question of whether or not to even give the "breathe of life" is indeed a very real concern to many.
I, personally, do not teach artificial resuscitation to my students; at any non leadership level. I do, however, discuss the dynamics, styles, and choices available to the potential rescuer; and enthusiastically condone the continued learning and recertification of the skill. I will often demonstrate a "full blown" rescue to a basic and/or advanced class, though the person who plays the part of the victim is well known to and selected by me. I do not, thereafter, encourage the students to practice with each other during the course; though they will often "inflate" by blowing into the air while practicing the scuba rescue/tow.
I know of several instructors/stores who have had students purchase their own regulator mouthpieces, for a course, since the onset of the AIDS awareness. While this may be a bit drastic (pool water will likely kill almost anything!), I cannot and will not censure such a practice.
--Struther Macfarlane, NAUI 6676; Toronto, Ontario, Canada

A. Please, please, please can we, at NAUI, help control some of the rampant paranoia about AIDS? There has never been a documented case of AIDS being transferred by mouth to mouth contact. AIDS is a very weak (albeit fatal) virus that is not easily transmitted.
Approximately 500 health care workers die each year from hepatitis contracted through patient contact, and it is much more contagious than AIDS. The herpes virus is endemic in our society, and the consequences of genital herpes on childbirth is very serious, with complications ranging from blindness to severe retardation to death. Herpes is also very contagious, and can easily be transmitted from mouth to mouth contact if both parties have open lesions.
The SCUBA industry may have reason for concern about the continuing use of mouth to mouth resuscitation, but AIDS is very definitely not one of the reasons for that concern!
--Kenneth W. Bowers, PhD, NAUI 6138; Oxnard, CA (Clinical Psychologist specializing in conducting training in sexually transmitted disease prevention and AIDS follow-up care.)

A. Being a dive instructor as well as a health care professional, I feel dive instructors should continue to teach mouth to mouth resuscitation. The lifesaving potential of mouth to mouth resuscitation is invaluable. If one is not properly trained in mouth to mouth resuscitation, how is one going to administer it in an emergency? Using pocket masks could be taught in addition; however, even though this device may reassure the rescuer that a risk is minimized, maintaining an open airway and a good seal would be virtually impossible during an in-water dive rescue.
As dive professionals, it is important to remember that infection control policies and procedures have been designed to limit and control the transmission of communicable diseases. These precautions are recommended by the Center for Disease Control (CDC) for health care professionals as well as other professionals involved in various types of emergencies. The CDC has shown that the risk of contracting HIV is extremely low as a result of workplace exposure.
The key to reducing the risk of an accidental exposure to AIDS is the awareness and education of dive professionals, not the omission of mouth to mouth resuscitation from the scuba diving curriculum. Mouth to mouth resuscitation gives the victim the best chance of survival in an emergency.
--Regina Bennett, NAUI 8544; Beaverton, OR (Registered Nurse, CPR Instructor)

A. I personally do not feel that AIDS is of much consequence when discussing transmission through oral exchange during SCUBA exercises. The first circumstance I would evaluate is the number of AIDS incidents nationally. If this ratio of incident to population were carried down to the total number of divers, the percentage still remains at approximately 0.2% of the dive community.
Medically speaking, the amount of blood material in saliva is generally not of concentration to transmit the HIV virus. Add to this fact that the salivary fluid is rinsed and diluted in the passing of one piece of equipment to another diver, the chance of transmission is reduced even further.
I have much greater concerns over such organisms such as Psuedomonas, Staphlococcus, and Herpes which grow in copious amounts in the human mouth. All of these can do serious harm to the recipient. I feel that a national program of infection control should be initiated and implemented as soon as possible.
With my rental equipment I use a chemical sterilizer known as CIDEX. This chemical is not generally available to the public, but a number of other methods of sterilizing are available to the general dive community.
--Mike Hoover, NAUI 12504; Chambersburg, PA (Registered Respiratory Therapist, Registered Cardiopulmonary Technician)
[Note: Single copies of the CDC's Universal Precautions for Prevention of Transmission of HIV, Hepatitis B Virus and other Bloodborne Pathogens in the Health Care Setting and Recommendations for Preventing Transmission of HIV and Hepatitis B Virus to Patients During Exposure-Prone Invasive Procedures are available free from the National AIDS Clearinghouse, P.O. Box 6003, Rockville, MD 20850, telephone (800) 458-5231.]

[NOTE: The views expressed in this column are opinions held by the individual members referenced, and are not those of NAUI or the editors of Sources.]

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